rap may be poetry, But no matter how you fiddle with the words it is NOT music and it is violent, abusive, and does not warrant cheap apologists

How about a "not now" for in between the "I don't like it" and "I like it" ratings. Sometimes I hear songs that I like, but don't want to hear at the time. Maybe I should think before I go writing, because I'm guessing I could use the forward button, no? duh!

Hey Natalie -

Yep, the skip button is great for that. But if you don't want to hear the song again in the near future, you can also put the song on the shelf for a month. Just click on 'Guide Us' and select Zzzzz to put that song to sleep for 30 days.

:) Lucia

That post is very good, thank you it is very interesting ;)

hehe this is nice :) realy nice sound.

Pandora is great... how do you make your money.....I know that nothing in life is free....

Why aren't there any comments about the "Drum Feels" podcast?

I think the guys did a great job and should be commended for their contribution to the musical enlightenment of the masses. Really guys that was a nice piece of work, great playing too, very clean, thanks.

andora is great... how do you make your money.....I know that nothing in life is free....

Thanks for the comments!

Alp:
Pandora makes money from the advertisements placed on our site and from listeners who pay to subscribe to our ad-free version. We also get a small commission when our listeners click through from Pandora to buy music from iTunes and Amazon.
Then we use that money to pay royalties to all of the musicians that are played on our site!

Scott:
Thanks so much; thanks for noticing. :) Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,
Lucia

I like the sound. ;)

Thing about rap to me, if it's someone like KRS-One or the beastie boys or Run-Dmc I don't mind. It's when rap starts talking about shooting someone and lewd sex... That's when I don't like it.

"Kevin -- rap may be poetry, But no matter how you fiddle with the words it is NOT music and it is violent, abusive, and does not warrant cheap apologists"

I think this is just what the author was talking about, people will often times say that things are not what they are because they don't like them.
Reason such as "violent, abusive" (This isn�t in every rappers music.)don't change the fact that it's music.
There's plenty of current rock music that explores the same themes and use a lot of the same lyrical spews (with the exception of the "N" word in most cases) however they're sung.
Content doesn't change the fact the music is music regardless of your feeling towards the genre.
If it�s really the content the bothers you then I�d suggest artist such as Lupe Fiasco, Common, and some Kaye West tracks to try something a little different that doesn�t always fall into the �popular music� category. If you just don�t like the style of music then regardless of how good/bad the lyrics are you�re just simply not going to like it because it�s not your cup of tea. (Let�s be honest, most music is constructed in a form that sells)

Are you guys aware of the bug that causes audio to "burst" in volume on skip? Try skipping any song, the volume increases to 100% for a split second before forwarding to the next song. It's rather painful/dangerous!

Tim.. Thanks so much for Pandora I can't get enough of it... I am sooo hooked..listening to all my jazz favorits...old & new...I live in Puerto Rico and miss listening to a good Jazz station which does not exist here...this is so hip thks again.....
Tks,
Ev

I don't know what 99% of this has to do with "Drum Feels" but I just felt I had to get involved because of some of the comments about Rap music.

You can't say Rap isn't music because it IS music whether you like it or not. I personally didn't think Rap would be around very long, I didn't think it had enough musical depth and thought it would run out of steam in a couple of years, boy was I wrong.

One thing I think most of get wrong is how long Rap has been around. I'm pretty sure it's been around in one form or another since probably forever. I heard on some radio station that Blondie invented Rap with the song 'Rapture' but I know that people had been using the spoken word in songs before that so I disagree. What I think defined Rap was that they were using rudimentary syncopation with the spoken word, more so than people had done before. My only problem with Rap is that I'm afraid people will forget how to actually play instruments and will only know how to sample previously recorded material. Also most of the rhymes I hear in Rap tunes remind me of stuff we used make up in grade school on the playground, you know the stuff the girls used to jump rope to. These facts allow people with almost no musical ability to make "music" and yes it is.

The really neat thing about music is that no matter how much music theory you know or how technically proficient you are on your instrument, there is always more to know and learn.

Thanks for your comments!

Bryan, I'll have Support contact you.

:) Lucia

On the subject of drums,I think they are almost the most imporant part of any song,I'm A guitar player,I have to have the drums right or I can't play. We tease drummers but we love you the most.Todd said,I just want bang on this drum all day. PS Luke the drifter is Hank Williams.Paula got you.Love Paula&Jeffery PPS I'll take the job.

Quoting Storm..."Content doesn't change the fact the music(rap) is music regardless of your feeling towards the genre"

Simply put.

I may not like heavy metal music to listen to and may not understand how its constructed or appreciate how its performed. However because I am a true music lover I respect the groups who brought that genre of music to the forefront, like AC~DC and Metallica or even Ozzy Osbourne. I am a true music lover...because I respect musicians/entertainers...rather I like it or not, it's a part of our society.

I am from the rap era- the original rap era where Cutis Blow rapped about his favorite sport...basketball...no cursing no hooks about getting shot on his block and Whodini rapped about the Wild Wild West. As a teenager I could relate to this new spoken word format put to music, maybe not a melodie like Kevin said...but a it was music irregardless.

Because today's rap is tainted with an impression that "rap is and has always been" filled with violence and sampled music continues to frustrate me, because its a half truth. Of course I am more than dissappointed with today's rap music and the stained reputation it has brought in recent years. I just dont listen to it instead of claiming that it is not music. I simply choose not to participate as a listener.

But as a true music lover...I do my research before I pass judgement...

All genre's (whether we like them or not)contribute to this catylst of communication that breaks all language barriers...called...music.

Lana Gee

Hi, all,

The rap discussion isn't one that I started -- that was Michael Zapruder's previous post -- but I'm happy to weigh in.

Obe -- thanks for the recommendations on some hip hop with different lyrical content.

Scott Bringe -- you raise an important point about hip hop's longevity. It's here for the long haul, and has had many different evolutionary phases since its dawn in the Bronx back in the '70s. (I also agree with your take on the Blondie opinion -- Gil Scott-Heron and the Last Poets were some of the first who actually recorded rapping, pre-dating Blondie by several years. Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight" was earlier than "Rapture," too.)

And yes, contemporary rap doesn't require the same instrumental performance abilities as other styles, but it does require whole different sets of skills: Beat-making, DJing, intensive verse-writing, freestyling rhymes, etc.

Lana -- you make me want to hear some Kurtis Blow and Whodini now... thanks, and good call. There is plenty of rap out there that isn't about sex and violence, and there always has been. It's just a question of discovering it, and bringing it to light.

i agree with jefferyharrel. In my band we always tease the drummer, but if he doesn't do his job right our whole performance goes down. a good drummer is the heart of any good band

i think raps amazing..u just got to understand what they're tokin about..once u do u'll realise that some rap artists have alot to say

Eric -- Absolutely. I've heard it said that, when you walk into a room where live music is happening, you either like the band or you don't like them. That immediate response is entirely dependent upon whether or not the drummer is doing his or her job.

Devika -- Agreed. Plenty of great rap out there.

im multiracial and i enjoy multi music...lol...i likle everything from moby to nelly...lynryd skynrd to lil wayne!good music is goog music i dont care if you have gold teefis...lol..or a mullet!pandora is the greatest!

Actually if you all are curious the basis of rap music in it's purity came from the history of African chant music and has a different line other than melody in the European sense. What it has BECOME is cultural; and yes unfortunately uniquely American just like Jazz in it's time. I try to keep an open mind when it comes to music; but rap is a very aquired taste just like sushi!!!

Hello Tim,

You have a great project. If something like this was not done a lot of the music of our heritage would be lost forever.

I have a question. When you book mark a song does that take it off your play list? It doesn't seem to affect book marked albums or artists, though if the same album is played a different song comes up. Also, I seem to run into the same thing with songs I check as "I like this song".

If this is happening then book marking is not a good thing if you happen to like a particular song though I would guess you would tend to hear more album selections of book marked artists.

Bob

Thanks for your comment and question, Bob!

When you bookmark a song, you're just keeping track of it for your later reference...
Bookmarking a song doesn't change your station one bit.

If you'd like to hear a specific song more often on a station, what you can do is either give it a thumbs up when you hear it on a station, or add it to your station as a "seed."
This kind of feedback will continue to customize your station over time.

You can add multiple songs or artists to a station by clicking the triangle next to the station name and selecting "Add more music to this station". Look here (http://blog.pandora.com/faq/index.html#88) for more info on creating and tuning Pandora stations.

Thanks!
Lucia