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September 05, 2007
Pandora Podcast #20: Meters & Time Signatures
And it's time, time, time that you love / And it's time, time, time. - Tom Waits
The time has arrived for us to talk about meter. Do you like to dance the waltz? Are any of your favorite songs in odd meters like 7/8 or 5/4? Are you down with the doo-wop feel of 12/8? Come listen to this week's show and talk with us about it.
Drumming once again is Jeff Anthony, and playing guitar and keyboards and chatting us up is Adam Blum. Both Adam and Jeff analyze songs for the Music Genome Project, and they have some great insights into both the "common time" of 4/4 that dominates most Western music, and the odd time signatures that spice up the stew.
That episode page has audio clips from waltzes and odd-metered songs by Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, Jerry Garcia, Elvis Costello, R.E.M., David Bowie and Nick Drake, as well as ones by newer artists like the Helio Sequence, Air, Incubus and Broken Social Scene. Or, you can scan the rest of the free shows over at the main podcast page.
Tick tock and you don't stop,
Kevin
Posted by Kevin Seal at September 5, 2007 12:32 AM
Comments
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Posted by: tyrone jones at September 5, 2007 09:56 PM
sweet times for country!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kaylea Townsend at September 6, 2007 03:41 PM
"I Wanted So", by Johnny Cash is ripped incorrectly with lots of CD skipping. It creates an interesting, if annoying, rhythm. :)
Posted by: Jon at September 7, 2007 09:58 AM
Yes I really did enjoy listening to Pandora Box;
I found it very intertaining. Best of all I liked how you can select a song or artist to listen to.
Thanks Again,
Karen
Posted by: Karen Jordan at September 8, 2007 01:43 AM
I have a question for you guys that I'd love to see a post on. How is it that last.fm can operate in Canada but you can't?
Posted by: Justice~! at September 8, 2007 12:41 PM
I'm not sure where else to post this so:
Does the Music Genome Project have genes related to the dynamic expression of a song? I prefer songs that are not flat in their volume, but rather include parts which ramp up in volume and intensity, or fade to something more quiet and reflective where appropriate. High dynamic expression, in other words, is my preference.
And in a similar vein, are there genes measuring tempo variance, where the tempo in a song might start at one speed but slow or quicken at points?
And, to be on topic, I do indeed find songs in atypical meters to be more interesting than the standard 4/4. Although, not to say songs in 4/4 are bad.
Posted by: moo at September 8, 2007 06:41 PM
All I got to say is... when will you guys let Canadians back into Pandora?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
Please reply.
Posted by: Canada Loves Pandora at September 8, 2007 09:30 PM
I love being able to get info on the song, artist, and album via the pop-up links. I think it would be great if a user could also link to the song's lyrics in a similar fashion. I suppose transposing lyrics is beyond the scope of your genomic activities, but perhaps you could partner with a third party for this service...
Posted by: RSPhotoIndy at September 10, 2007 08:30 AM
Hi, Moo...
We do indeed track dynamics and tempo variance. If you want to hear more about dynamics, you might want to hear this show with Matt Cannon:
http://blog.pandora.com/archives/podcast/2007/08/quiet_loud.html
And RSPhotoIndy,
I would love to see lyrics on there as well. I know that we are trying to make that happen, so stay tuned, and hopefully lyrics will eventually be added to songs' information on Pandora.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at September 10, 2007 03:37 PM
I love music in odd time signatures. Another
well-known example is "Living in the Past" by
Jethro Tull, in 5/4. Progressive rock, which is
my favorite style, is full of odd signatures.
Chris Squire, on "Fish Out Of Water", even did
a whole song in 11/4 time. "Salisbury Hill"
has a great effect in which it's in 7/4 time
except at the end of the verse when he throws in
an extra beat to make it 8 counts, which makes an
exciting climax at that point in the song.
Great stuff. I liked your show very much;
I think you explained the time signature
concept as well as I've ever heard it
explained.
Posted by: Dan Weinreb at September 13, 2007 06:46 PM
two words very educational
Posted by: Roland at September 14, 2007 04:11 PM
very cool, i was dancing with my dog, she dances pretty well. but the music was far out, dig it and solid..thanks
Posted by: elmer barrett at September 23, 2007 03:44 AM
This was my first listen... some problems with skip, but I like the variety and some songs that I would not have chosen...expands listeners understanding of the artist...I have a broad intrest but fall back on rythem and lyric honisty.
Posted by: just Alaska at September 24, 2007 11:19 PM
I just wanted to put SOMEWHERE how much I LOVE Pandora radio, you guys are awesome and I listen all the time! I always get the most perfect songs, I don't know how you do it, but its AMAZING!
Posted by: Audrey at September 30, 2007 10:31 AM