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April 26, 2007

Legislation introduced to Save Internet Radio!

What a week! The outpouring of public support for internet radio over the past seven days has been nothing short of extraordinary.

Following our outreach to Pandora listeners, every congressional office was flooded with constituent phone calls, emails and faxes - literally hundreds of thousands in just 5 days! The entire fax system on the Hill was brought to a standstill. We had to hand deliver the faxes!

The response in DC has been dramatic and immediate. A bill was introduced today to reverse this terrible ruling and bring rationality to bear on this issue.

The bill is called the Internet Radio Equality Act, HR 2060 and is being introduced by Representatives Jay Inslee (D-WA) and Donald Manzullo (R-IL). For more info go to SaveNetRadio

Please take a moment to call your congress person to voice your support for this legislation and urge them to sponsor or support the bill. It's very important the we keep pressure on the legislators to ensure that this bill is passed quickly.

If you need help determining who your member of the House of Representatives is, go to www.house.gov where, in the upper left hand corner, you can enter your zip code and get the corresponding Congressperson. Click on their name to access the main phone number of their Washington, D.C. office.

Also, a heads up that I'll be hosting a town hall next Monday evening in the capital. We'll be on the Hill meeting with representatives and are having a special meetup. It'll be followed by an evening of music and a party hosted by the SaveNetRadio coalition. It's a free event - and friends are welcome. Come join the army of webcasters, musicians, politicians and others that are driving this campaign for a night of music and conversation. Details:

Where: Be Bar , 1318 9th Street NW
When: Monday, April 30th @ 6:30 PM
RSVP: Send email to tim.westergren@pandora.com

Hope to see you there...

Thank you again for all of your support.

Tim (Founder)

Posted by Tim Westergren at April 26, 2007 10:43 PM

Comments

If you're lazy and want a template to send your representative, you can copy/paste mine :) I think it's applicable:

*****
I just wanted to write to voice my support for the Internet Radio Equality Act.

I want to urge you to sponsor and support this legislation, as it is very important for artists and musicians all over the world. As a consumer, I have discovered music through sites like pandora.com that I would have never discovered before. I then bought their albums, merchandise, and attended concerts -- things that never would have happened without Pandora. They are doing a great service to the music industry and would be unable to continue under these new, outrageous fees.

Thank you for your sponsorship and support. Best of luck!
*****

Posted by: dep at April 27, 2007 8:59 AM

Hey Tim,
Great news. See ya Monday here in DC!
Donna

Posted by: Donna at April 27, 2007 9:11 AM

This is absolutely great news. I hope everyone will lend their support.

Posted by: Lewis at April 27, 2007 10:48 AM

internet radio was born dead.

pandora and lastfm stand some chance because the user thinks he can choose the music he will hear.

internet radio that have to imitate the lack of choice from regular radio is nothing to be saved. sad but true. See ya.

Posted by: gabe at April 27, 2007 12:38 PM

I used the SaveNetRadio email system. It works! My representative sent me a reply early this week. He wasn't sure what he was going to do, but would keep our interests in mind. I'm going to reply directly to him and ask him to support this legislation.

People... the system can work! Contact your legislators now and ask them to save Internet radio.

Posted by: Jon B at April 27, 2007 12:45 PM

Great news, i did get a letter back too.
I live in Argentina but hell, this pandora system kicks any radios ass!

PS: Hey, Lewis: I don't get a chance to listen to unlimited reggae in a normal radio stations o do you?
The sad true is only YOUR sad true.

peace out!

Posted by: iggi at April 27, 2007 2:30 PM

This bill is a very bad idea. If you can't get the music owners to voluntarily sell their music to you at a price you find acceptable, the answer is not to force them to do it. It's their music. Would you want YOUR customers calling the government if they don't like your pricing?

Posted by: Mark at April 27, 2007 6:48 PM

firstly. Lewis, you're an idiot.

secondly. excellent work tim et al! a truly impressive response from informed and responsible users.

fight the power!

brad.

Posted by: brad. at April 27, 2007 6:51 PM

Living in Norway my ability to assist is sadly weakened, but i can say however that such RIAA troubles dont really exist to that degree over here so wouldnt it be a possiblity to move the server to a different country but to allow the people in charge of the site to remain in charge of the site?

would protect it wouldnt it?

Posted by: Kris at April 27, 2007 7:13 PM

SaveNetRadio.org have this useful page -- enter your zipcode and it tells you your representative's name, phone number, and talking points:

http://www3.capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/callalert/index.tt?alertid=9679516&type=TA

Posted by: peter at April 27, 2007 8:51 PM

Called up my Congressman Friday and asked that they take a look at the bill. I think the best thing I could've said to the gentleman on the phone was my appeal to common sense when I said "Sir, I don't have to convince you that there are no good radio stations any more. This is the only hope for people here who don't listen to pop or country." He laughed and said "Then I'll definitely have to take a look at this."

Sure he could've been just joking, but maybe he realized that he probably doesn't listen to the radio as much as he used to either.

Posted by: Jeffool at April 28, 2007 11:20 AM

Pandora's allowed me to discover new music that I would've never heard otherwise. And yes, I bought a few CDs of lesser known artists as a result. As someone living outside the US I can't influence congressmen, but I hope this issue is resolved. If not, I would be willing to pay a subscription to use Pandora and I'm sure many others would.

Posted by: Rani at April 28, 2007 9:52 PM

I emailed my local representative too, I'm sure he's already supporting the bill since he's always strongly opposed internet regulation, internet taxes, and anything else that resembles it.

I'll post again if I get a response, but for now I'll sleep well knowing that my local rep knows what's up.

Posted by: Frik at April 28, 2007 11:43 PM

You guys rock! I just discovered your site.. It's really exciting to see that there is such camaraderie online...

Posted by: Nicholas at May 2, 2007 6:26 AM

Hey, I was just wondering if it would be a little easier if someone from each of the areas helps find new music. I'd love to dedicate some of my time to spreading the local scene in the area. With bands from Emmaline's escape to Meriwether, or Addavoy to Oh! Juliet. I think I'd be able to help out alot as well as turning in pictures and stuff like that. Only if you'd like me to though!

Posted by: Rob Hebert at May 2, 2007 8:20 AM

Hi, just wanted to say I received Tim Westergren's mass email regarding no more international access to Pandora starting tomorrow (I'm in Scandinavia, just like the other Kris who posted before.) It was really great while it lasted, and I hope you guys will be back. For what it's worth, I found a ton of great new artists and -bought- new music thanks to Pandora, so there. And to pitch in for the battle, a certain someone used her old New York address to write to the NY political reps... Best she could do... Best of luck and keep up the good work.

Posted by: Kris2 at May 2, 2007 11:32 AM

i hope we can listen in Brasil! :)

Posted by: larcy at May 2, 2007 12:06 PM

your decision to ban intl listeners from your server stinks, if the reason for it is a financial one. please erase my profile from your servers.

Posted by: Alex de Jong at May 2, 2007 12:14 PM

i just received the mail, too... i'm from europe.

one can only say "damn" and f*** the industry. in the moment, three new cd's are on the way to my house. two of them are from artists i got to know via pandora. oh man, this sucks so much.

i don't really think you'll ever come back but let's hope so.

Posted by: deathblooming at May 2, 2007 12:26 PM

Hi, I also got the mail from Tim Westergren. I just wanted to thank you guys for offering such a great service. I have been using Pandora for one year and I can say that is one of the best things you can do in the Internet: I have discovered many new artists and I have bought many of their CDs. Im sorry that you have so many legal problems, and I hope the service out of the US will be restored as soon as possible. Thanks for being there.

Greetings from Oulu, Finland.

Posted by: Victor at May 2, 2007 12:28 PM

Ah... its sad .. Im from poland and for me Pandora is closig... :/ Really bad news. I really enjoyed that project and I bought several cd's from artists i would never know without it. I hope some day Pandora will come back (for those who are not from USA)

Posted by: Nihai at May 2, 2007 12:29 PM

I am in a grieving process, for my Pandora is dying. I shall stay by it's side in the last day of it's existence.
We may have lost this battle, but not the war.
Power to the people!

Posted by: iggi at May 2, 2007 12:36 PM

:-(

Thanks for your work. Thanks for all the good music. I discovered lots of new bands and most of all my new CDs are bands from the stream. I am very, very sad.

Thanks guys!
Greetings from Germany,
Martin

Posted by: Martin at May 2, 2007 1:09 PM

Hi, I also got the sad e-mail from Tim Westergren. I want to thank the people from Pandora for their wonderful service and the great music I discovered by using the service. Hopefully, the whole world can enjoy Pandora (again) in the (near) future!

I wish you all the best!

Bjorn (from the Netherlands)

Posted by: Bjorn at May 2, 2007 1:20 PM

Hi, I'm from Belgium and I just found out today that I won't be able to listen to pandora anymore :( What can be done? I hope pandora will be back for us non-US soon! Thanks for the great service and keep it up, even if we can't listen anymore...

Posted by: Kristel at May 2, 2007 1:20 PM

Thank you pandora, you was great, I can't belive it. The fucking industry!!!!!!

Bye!

Regards from Germany!

Posted by: exorcist at May 2, 2007 1:23 PM

Pandora helped me discover several bands that are now among my favourite ones. It really is irritating that I will have to reroute through US IP if I want to listen to Pandora from now on :( Good luck with the legal issues and I hope you have luck also with restoring world wide service soon.

Posted by: Sanicek at May 2, 2007 1:32 PM

Maybe one day,
when we are all under american influence,
rights, military control or what ever.

Then we can open pandora again and we will see that the world is not better.
When we are all the same we can enjoy our individual music?

We are very sad to see things happening this way.

We thought we found the new way of enjoying the internet and its possibilities.

We aplogy to be no american citizen and hope to be invited soon to your services. Even we are seperated by borders, colors, COMPANIES, GOVERNMENTS or what ever.

Posted by: roman at May 2, 2007 1:37 PM

Absolutely gutted you guys have to cut off services overseas.

This is going to have a huge effect on our social lives, and mean I have to download more music illegally in order to survive in France.


Posted by: Andy at May 2, 2007 2:07 PM

Keep fighting! FUCK THE INDUSTRY!

xxx
Sara from Iceland

Posted by: Sara at May 2, 2007 5:22 PM

Is there anything international residents can do?

I got an email this morning saying I've been identified as using an Australian IP Address and will be banned from the service.

Is this Australian law or American law which prevents pandora broadcasting to Australia?

Posted by: Will Lotto at May 2, 2007 5:35 PM

It's a pity the legislators here in New Zealand aren't as quick off the mark as those on Capital Hill.

I doubt that we will see any legislation in the near future here in New Zealand to over come the RIAA licensing issues.

I must echo many of the posts in this Blog in thanking you for the awesome service you have offered and I have enjoyed on an almost daily basis since signing up.

I look forward to any progress made and hope to see Pandora available in New Zealand again.

Cheers Jeff

Posted by: Jeff at May 2, 2007 5:53 PM

Bad news for Hong Kong listener!!
Tim, I hate you :P
Anyway, thanks for giving me music journey.
love you all, bye!

Posted by: Colin at May 2, 2007 6:21 PM

I am still in shock that my Pandora is being cut off. By far the best web site on the net. I have purchased dozens of CDs locally and internationally since I started listening. You will be greatly missed. Please try to find a way to broadcast internationally again. I'll be waiting.

A loyal friend in Australia

Posted by: Sonofswift at May 2, 2007 6:28 PM

I'm from Australia too, and Sara I am quite certain it's our countries legislation. It's the same legislation that prevents us from legally downloading tv and movies too. Even if we are happy to pay through itunes or the like. I guess we just need to push our representatives to work harder at international agreements.

I haven't been using Pandora since I discovered I couldn't do it legally. I want to say how grateful I am for the email you sent. I applaud you for doing the right thing, and just hope that you will be rewarded for that decision in the long run. I appreciate that you are keeping our profiles so that we can access them in the future... hopefully.

I've been missing Pandora for a while now, and I guess I it will be longer still now...

Good luck with it.

Posted by: Erin at May 2, 2007 8:21 PM

I'm not sure if I should reply yet, I am still so upset.

I understand the rational behind your move, to pay those that create the music. What I am upset about is that you are NOT paying those that create the music, you are paying the [insert appropriate derogatory adjective] publishing companies more interested in their bank account than the artist or the listeners. And since they have the money, politicians and thus legislation will bend their way.

As was mentioned before, Pandora was an excellent source for non-standard, non-guaranteed-money-spinner music. It enabled listener to connect to new artists and genres. Would it be possible to allow independently produced music to be released to international listeners?

I just hope we won't be banned from the podcasts which I have faithfully listened to and promoted to all my friends. ;-)

Sorry for my rant! I wanted to get my feelings know, in the hope it can add to the tide of change.

Posted by: Andreas Sher at May 2, 2007 10:13 PM

I am a Pandora user in Australia, and I am so sad at receiving Tim Westergren's letter that Pandora can no longer be received by those of us outside the USA. I love Pandora! I know that you will be doing all that you can to resume the service. All the very best to you.

Posted by: Merry at May 2, 2007 10:55 PM

Thanks for all the very supportive comments everyone. We'll be posting on this tomorrow and look forward to more correspondence. Heartbreaking for us...

One note of clarification for Andreas Sher. Pandora DOES pay the artists. In fact we pay more than any other form of radio. Both the publishing (composers) AND the performers are paid for every song we stream. I started this whole thing to help musicians - they will always be front and center for us...

Cheers. Tim (Founder)

Posted by: Tim Westergren at May 2, 2007 11:00 PM

I'm an Aussie and haven't received the email yet, so I'm praying I've somehow slipped under the radar... If an enterprising geek managed to fool Pandora into thinking he/she was in fact connecting from inside the US, could this have potential to hurt Pandora Media Inc.?

Posted by: streetdaddy at May 3, 2007 12:11 AM

The decision to prohibit international usage for now is understandable, and I support it for the cause, even though it means I will unfortunately not be able to use the service.

Just wanted to say thanks for an excellent service for now.

Posted by: robin at May 3, 2007 12:46 AM

Music shouldnt be blocked by stupid licences. It seems that the dinosaurs are fighting against their inevitable extinction. I am from Germany and enjoyed your service very much. Cheers!

Posted by: bernd at May 3, 2007 12:46 AM

So today is the day - no more Pandora in France. I discovered Pandora late, it was only about a year ago I began to build playlists. What Pandora offers, this incredible treat of custom made commercial free music, really made a difference in my life. I am so sorry it won't be possible anymore. Ten years ago in France the state put a statute on the percentage of non-French music played on the air. Radio stations had to observe 50 percent French and 50 percent other. There are some good artists here, but as far as "other" - British music dominates the 50% and not all of us like mainstream music coming from the states anyway. So I rarely heard the bands that I love the most played on the air. Methinks your attempts to launch the service over here will not be easy. I wish you much luck in the attempt!! Its all about talking to the right person over here. Most are programmed to just say "Non, c'est impossible!" but there are a few others who actually can think outside the box!

Meanwhile, thank you Pandora for providing this gift of music to me, I was aware it was not for overseas listeners, and yet you did let me listen for as long as you could and I really really enjoyed every minute of it!!

That's my two cents -
US national in France.

Posted by: Wendy Fages at May 3, 2007 12:52 AM

Ahw, man. This sucks!

Being from the Netherlands, pandora will be cut of here as well. Like anyone else, pandora offered me a lot of new music i never heard anywhere else and lots of cd's i bought lately (yeh, bought. Like...paying for it, quite a lot, in a shop) are from bands i heard here.

No more of that.

But i'm wondering. You are an american company, and i assume you run your site from an american server. So when i (in The Netherlands) log in on pandora i'm actually listening music from an american server. Doesn't that mean i'm avoiding dutch legislation, and use the US-license instead?

In that case...i should still be able to listen pandora. Shouldn't I?

Shouldn't I?

Please?

Dennis.

Posted by: Dennis de Vries at May 3, 2007 1:10 AM

I am very, very sad for not being able to listen to Pandora anymore. You helped me discover great music and I also appreciate your manner of communicating this bad news, actually the way in which you generally connect and comunicate with your listeners.
I also loved podcast series and band and albums reviews. Looking forward for listening to Pandora again.
Regards from Romania.

Posted by: Oana at May 3, 2007 1:22 AM

Thank you Tim for Pandora! I bought more cd's in Holland and Finland because of Pandora. Can anybody post info about getting my IP invisible or re-routing via the u.s.. Cause I can't live without Pandora.
Riaa: As of now I will stop buying american artists until this ban is gone.

Posted by: jan at May 3, 2007 1:24 AM

It seems that Pandora's box does not deny its myth. There is only hope left.
A listener from Romania.

Posted by: vlad at May 3, 2007 1:29 AM

I'm a french listener and I sad to say that but after more than one year of happiness with Pandora I 'm now using an other website which apparently don't have the same legals problems. Anyway you have all my support and friendship...Hope see u soon

Posted by: TotoX at May 3, 2007 1:33 AM

Where can I ask for a refund?

Posted by: Dominiek at May 3, 2007 1:38 AM

thanks from naples...for anything...

Posted by: michele at May 3, 2007 1:53 AM

Hi, I'm from the Netherlands and read the sad news only half an hour ago.
Of course, there are other ways to discover good music, but I will greatly miss Pandora. There are artists I would have never heard of without Pandora :) Hope you'll find a way to broadcast overseas again!

Posted by: Yvonne at May 3, 2007 2:24 AM

I'm so worried not to be able to hear Pandora Station anymore. I hope there will be finally some solution to this.

Will it be possible for us, the banned ones, to access our bookmarked songs? I've been adding there many artists since 2005!

Greetings from Spain

Posted by: Acelgafrita at May 3, 2007 2:47 AM

Don't shut pandora please

Posted by: Jordi at May 3, 2007 2:48 AM

I would also just like to voice my support for Pandora, and hope that sometime in the future, the music industry wakes up to their archaic and small minded licensing/business model.

What the heck is the difference between streaming music via web, and the radio waves?? Aren't a lot of radio stations streaming on the web simultaneously now anyway? (They are in New Zealand - said as I sit listening to a NZ station from my office in London!).

Anyway, I hope to be listening to Pandora again... one day. Radio stations come and go, it's the music matching that made Pandora the best.

Bridget, New Zealand / UK

Posted by: Bridget at May 3, 2007 2:58 AM

Hello fellas, i readed your email about blocking users from other countries, I am really sorry you have to do that, but anyway if you must...but thanks for all the time i was enjoying your service, you made me find a lot of great music. I hope in the future we could acces from any country...
Bye bye! And great work with Pandora!

Posted by: agente_naranja at May 3, 2007 3:07 AM

hi, im a Pandora listener from Malaysia. of course, im really saddened by this new ruling and how it affects my frequent dose of great music on Pandora. but i would like to invite the Pandora team to come here and do your roadshow like the one you've been doing in the States. i think the main purpose here would be to educate people on this site and how others can get involved in providing great music across the world with fewer restrictions.
i didnt know that the artists and the publishers get paid for their music. putting the artists first is the best thing you've done, Tim, kudos for that. i think its revolutionary how Pandora has reached so many people around the world and its a pity i wont be accessing that site anytime soon. thank you for everything. would love to hear more news on this. all the best, Pandora!

Posted by: navin at May 3, 2007 3:11 AM

I was sad to hear about the cut-off. I do wish you all the best, and hope that some time in the future you'll be able to stream globally again.

Good luck!

Posted by: B. at May 3, 2007 3:54 AM

French listeners are very disappointed too.
Thank you Pandora. Bye.
Simon

Posted by: Simon at May 3, 2007 3:56 AM

now i'm so very much saddened by this news.
darn... i hope that the bill will not pass as i am so living OUTSIDE U.S and i absolutely love Pandora!!
-weeps-

and yeah...i've bought CSs after listening to some of the songs from Pandora coz i found out that i actually like some off-the-mainstream singers..

Posted by: jayne at May 3, 2007 4:02 AM

Is there any hope for those of us outside the states?

Posted by: claudiu at May 3, 2007 4:16 AM

dear tim

I just received your email anouncing there will be no more pandora outside the states from today march 3rd

this is de most terrible email I've got in my entire life. I feel so sad and ungry. How can you block me because I listen from spain? Pandora is the most important thing I've discovered through the web. When I found it, I run to tell all my friends: musicians, moviemakers and just friends, musicloving friends. I got the same answer from all of them: "This is big". I still think pandora is the biggest invention in the www for musical meanings.

musicians, songwriters, labels and publishers should see it in an oposite way. Pandora spreads their product. It is free marketing. Music lovers can discover new music from pandora and then push that music until it becomes a mass fenomenon. I have hundreds of vinils and I taped a lot of them for my friends. I have thousands of cds and I've copied a lot of them for my friends. Now I had pandora and I dont tape or burn. I just tell the friends to visit. And I keep on buying cds or itunes, like most of my friends do.

please tell all thouse executives and lawers that they will lose money, my money, if they take pandora away from me. And I am sure a lot of other people will do the same: no new music to discover, no money to spend. Lets spend the money in other things.

please, tell that people they are wrong, tell them again you are a helping hand to them, to their bussiness. But this time, say it in my name, please. And please keep me informed. Dont erase me. I want to be part of it when it rises again, brighter and powerfull, as I am sure it will do. I must say, anyway, congratulations for this great idea and all the effort put into it.

thanks for this years of great companion and this enjoyable music experiment.
regards
pepe jordana
spain

Posted by: pepe jordana at May 3, 2007 4:39 AM

Best radio is when plays what I want to hear, according to my mood and taste. With Pandora I discovered musicians and records maybe I never would hear about. Many of them (CD's) are in my collection now. In my opinion limiting Pandora to States only in the end of the day will reduce incomes from record sales. Again the publishers, managers and other staff protects their stable incomes not carrying with musicians. As usual...
But again thanks for a great idea, great project. Thomas - Poland

Posted by: Tomasz Debkowski at May 3, 2007 6:20 AM

Hello, I am from Germany and I loved Pandora.
I am programmer and system admin myself, so I know how much work is behind such a big and well functioning project.
Despite of I won't get a chance to listen to your great radio, I wish you a nice time.
Maybe we will see us again (I mean, I will listen to you).
Hopefully and sincerely yours, ct. -.-

Posted by: Lorenz at May 3, 2007 6:24 AM

well,

i used to listen to pandora.

i even had passed some links to friends.

sorry for the limited audition.

best regards,
ampmarq.

Posted by: ampmarq at May 3, 2007 7:04 AM

I am in Ireland. Still I am able to access the service, whats going on, is the service stopping or not? Legally is using a proxy a valid method of operation?

Posted by: Irish User at May 3, 2007 7:58 AM

France vote for Pandora!
I'm a french Pandora user and like the others people around the world I'm sad.
Can't understand why, we canno't download we just discover new musics that can check with our musical flavours...
I discovered very good sounds with Pandora (thanks a lot!), I'm very disapointed to know that I can no more listen it.
I hope this service could be soon available here.
Nice day @ll

Posted by: arnaud at May 3, 2007 10:24 AM

Surely there is a way to maintain a profitable business model by moving Pandora up here to Canada and welcoming the international people back until the US gets its collective RIAA-BS act sorted out...

Pandora has opened the musical spectrum wide open as far as discovering artists I enjoy, and I've gone on to purchase quite a few albums (both on iTunes and via Amazon) of those artists. I'd probably never have found them otherwise.

So, if this is truly goodbye to Pandora for us, let it be remembered as an incredible service for listeners AND the musicians/songwriters whose music was played for a targeted, welcoming audience. Thanks to all who made it as fabulous as it is...

(and there's always Canada. For now, anyway).

Posted by: Jailyn at May 3, 2007 11:08 AM

Hi Tim,
Until this very sad day of May 3 I was a Pandora listener. I discovered lot's of good music and because of that bought CD's of groups I like. Thank you for that.

I do hope to be able to listen to Pandora again in the near future.

It is very sad to discover that in these modern times of Internet, music industry still isn't as global as is should be and could be, with al it's national licensing constraints and national organisations protecting copyrights etc.

I subscribe your statement that everyone is to be paid properly, but it shouldn't be so difficult to meet all regulations.
Not only when you want to listen to music, but also if you want to perform music. Sometimes, there just are too many constraints, because of national and international legal differences.

Greatings from The Netherlands

Posted by: Louise at May 3, 2007 12:08 PM

Hello tim, im from Venezuela..


If you know the government from venezuela and the United Stated are Having a lot of problems today and like this pronunce about that only the people from the us can have pandora its absurd whit all respect that the american people deserved...


I recibe a e mail from you and let me tell you that pandora means a lot to me you have no idea!!! i work to Hilton Caracas the 5 stars hotel!!! and the only thing that we hear on computers at work its pandora all the time and not only me!!! form the Manager to the Housekiping people!!!


At home the only page that relax me its pandora because the quality of the sound its grate.. the first time that i went to www.pandora.com I knew that it was for me its easy to use and no proble to hear good music!!!


i gonna i miss you pandora!!!

i will go to usa next month and i will try to go to the main office of this grate page!!!!


Tim i hope have and personal answer from you in the next days!!!! Gracias!!!

David Castillo

castillohots@hotmail.com

Posted by: David Castillo at May 3, 2007 12:49 PM

For all those folks who have asked what they can do from outside the US. First, thanks for the support. Two things:

1. Call any friends you have living in the US and ask them to call their congressional representative urging them to support the Internet Radio Equality Act, HR2060. This rights issue in the US is having a very negative impact on the prospects internationally.

2. Rally support in your own countries for your political representatives to take action and create a centralized, statutory licensing body to allow companies like Pandora to get the rights we need. There has been much talk, but little action on this front across the world.

Many thanks.

Tim (Founder)

Posted by: Tim Westergren at May 3, 2007 1:50 PM

ATTN: Dominiek

..and anyone else interested in receiving a refund for subscription charges:

Please contact Support at Pandora-Support [at] Pandora.com from the email address with which you subscribed and request a refund.

Thanks so much!

Posted by: Maggie at May 3, 2007 4:39 PM

Tim,

Thanks for the clarification, and I apologies again for my ranting (an old hippy fighting the "man" ;)). I do appreciate what you have done with Pandora and for all musicians (I count several professional musicians as my friends). Perhaps this thread can go as signature campaign to the powers that be to show support for a change in the licensing laws. After all the Internet does cross international borders indiscriminately!

Thanks once again, and I wish you success even with a smaller Pandora audience!

PS It would be interesting to know what the ratio of US / non-US listener is, oops, was!

Posted by: Andreas Sher at May 3, 2007 8:00 PM

FYI, I contacted Anna Eshoo's office and she is backing the bill. You should perhaps post a list of supporters on the site.

Hopefully sometime soon, regulations will provide for the *whole* world to experience Pandora again. Technology has the power to makes the world your neighbor, which can make the world a better place.

I listen to BBC Radio on my Roku...I wonder if there is a country in the world in which you could open a subsidiary that would enable you to resume your global service?

May 4, 2007

Dear Catherine,

Thank you for contacting me about copyright royalty rates on webcasters.

We agree with each other and I share your concerns about the decision by the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) to propose increased royalty rates for web-based music services. In many cases the rates the CRB proposed are higher than the total revenue these services generate and if implemented, could effectively strangle this fledgling industry.

I will support legislation to overturn the CRB decision and allow the Board to set a reasonable royalty rate that justly compensates artists and copyright owners without destroying up-and-coming webcasting services.

Sincerely,

Anna G. Eshoo
Member of Congress

Posted by: Catherine van Zuylen at May 4, 2007 12:31 PM

I just want to greet you all from Berlin and I am very sad what happened. Pandora was such a great pleasure for me, it only motivates buying cds, no need to interrupt this! Let the music live worldwide without any restriction!!!

Posted by: Carolin Borchardt at May 6, 2007 11:36 AM

@bridget:
the web is global; radio waves have limited range

it's like sunlight versus street light: if you want to plunge a neighboring country into a perpetual state of fear (as an act of terror? hmm...) you don't turn off your own street lights, these aren't illuminating another country's streets anyway!

you find a way to block off their access to the sun :-)

@mark:
while your loyalty to free-market capitalism is to be lauded, I think you misunderstood this bill - the prior situation was that musicians could, if webradio was unable to afford their existing pricing schemes, voluntarily offer a percentage deal instead of a flat rate

but the new situation DISALLOWS musicians from offering mutually acceptable deals, ultimately LOSING them money because the independents cannot afford these higher prices

the proposed bill would RESTORE their (the musician's) rights to offer different pricing deals

I personally, AS a singer, am in favor of negotiation: being able to decide between selling to someone at a reduced price THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, and not getting any money at ALL because they can't afford it!

I also like the idea of percentage-based fee structures* because they scale to the success of the business; if the business doesn't make much, the fees will still be affordable, but if they make a LOT, the artists will see some of that and not be left wondering if they were cheated by some big record/label corps

*http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070502-internet-radio-royalty-hike-delayed-last-chance-to-petition-congress.html

Posted by: Robyn at May 6, 2007 12:36 PM

If buying music is possible by Itunes, why shouldn't I buy through pandora? The car selling companies are making real good marketing by the new "Experience-marketing-ideas". Tasting the product is loving it, the previous step to buying it... and the companies are really interested in selling, aren't they?

SIGNED:
A PANDORA ABSOLUT YONKI... REGARDS TO EVERYONE.

Posted by: pedro oller at May 7, 2007 4:14 AM

Woohoo! Tim, thanks for your tireless efforts on this. This may have been the first time i've actually called my representative's office on the phone. i hate to use this word, but it was kind of empowering.

Posted by: Claude at May 8, 2007 9:18 AM

I'm planning to move to Australia and am gutted at the thought I will lose my Pandora. I have bought a number of CDs by artists I discovered on Pandora. These are CDs I would never have purchased but for hearing them on Pandora. Good luck in the future will all your endeavours.

Posted by: Colin at May 8, 2007 12:04 PM

I'm one of the lucky ones being in the UK and I still have access.

The threat by the industry has convinced me that everyone - both musicians and consumers - are entirely at the mercy of evil corporate giants.
It is the corporate giant and the major record labels that are killing music and replacing it with mass-produced noise performed by brain-dead puppets, which is why pop is so bad these days.

The royalties increase is NOT for the benefit of musicians, it is purely so the executives can get rich quick.

I urge ALL real musicians so sell music independently.

I urge ALL consumers to hit the corporate giants where it hurts - and buy music directly from artists/small publishers where possible, otherwise the only option is to obtain it illegally.

Posted by: Nick at May 9, 2007 5:55 AM

RIAA:

You can thank the RIAA for this type of policy. The music industry wants to control what you listen to. If they control what you listen to they control what you buy. It is as simple as that. I am boycotting all of there music. I am only buying from independent artist from this day forward.

I invite anyone who so desires to join me in this effort to say screw the RIAA!

-What

Posted by: what at May 9, 2007 12:46 PM

Hi, all,

Thanks for the kind words about our podcast, too. If you want to keeping hearing the podcast and you're not in the U.S., just subscribe via iTunes or Live Bookmarks or Bloglines or whatever feed-reader you want to use.

Here's the feed:
http://podcast.pandora.com/pandora/podcast

Posted by: Kevin Seal at May 10, 2007 12:38 AM

I just heard about Pandora's plight at the net@night podcast. I tried to do my part and contacted my congressman - afterwhich I discovered he was one of the cosponsers of the bill(oops). I guess at least he knows I've got his back...

I wish there was some way to express our displeasure at the RIAA. All they've done is to limit artists access to the public. I'm tempted to join "what"

Tim,
Any thoughts about getting internet radio broadcasters together to directly compete with RIAA for artists. I know the cash isn't there for the artists but all you would need is a few homeruns...

Damn the man!!!
Long live Pandora!!!

Posted by: tookus at May 10, 2007 8:25 AM

The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF) just released a report on Internet Radio and Copyright Royalties at an event on Capitol Hill this morning. In the report, we describe problems with the current copyright royalty system for Internet Radio, and what steps Congress should take to reform this system.

I know this blog has been very active on this issue, and I wanted to make sure you were aware of our paper.

The report is available on our website at - http://www.itif.org/files/InternetRadio.pdf

Posted by: Daniel Castro at May 10, 2007 11:20 AM

I hope for Pandora Freedom...

Please contact me if I can make something from Spain.

Thanks for your work.

Posted by: Emilio Manzaneque at May 12, 2007 12:59 AM

I just posted a comment to both Senators of Tennessee and this is what I wrote them-I didn't read this article before I posted the comment to them, I saw the post it on my home page and went there directly! I am new to Pandora but I think its a beautiful thing! Really. Thank you so much for the access to what makes the world go 'round!
Sincerely,
Jessica


Please don't let the RIAA kill Pandora and all internet radio. Join Senators Ron Wyden and Sam Brownback as co sponsors of the Internet Radio Equality Act. Music has always been a part of my life and I like all kinds. I enjoy being able to listen to the light sound of my favorite songs in the background at work. It makes for a less stressful environment. But, at home it makes for a wonderful way for families to enjoy something together. Equality is very important as politicians have so greatly demanded and expected over the years-why do it to music? Music will set you free, it has brought so many people of all kinds together, when nothing else would! Please help save the internet radio.

Posted by: LadyjessieB at May 14, 2007 12:25 PM

I am shocked.....so what I am to do now....?

I'm from the Grenada in the caribbean and listen to lots of Reggae and many other Generes.......I own most of the cds but likes the way it's played on pandora....

Right now I am listening to Madonna Hung Up....I don't know what to do...LOL.....I'll be waiting for you to call nite and day....I hope I don't get fed up where I have to hung up....LOL

I gotta to listen to last bit of BeenieMan (reggae) and Kevin lyttle (Soca)

All the Best

Posted by: Tellon at May 14, 2007 9:17 PM

Make peace, not war!

Posted by: Doochense at January 11, 2008 5:53 PM

Internet Radio Bills:

HB2060 -
http://www.statesurge.com/#view-bill[&]main_content[&]bill_id=16303

SB1353 - http://www.statesurge.com/#view-bill[&]main_content[&]bill_id=14992

Thought you all may be interested in a new site (http://www.statesurge.com) devoted to transparency in government and one of the best ways to find legislation. You can sign up for a free trial on StateSurge.com and test out this legislative management system. Its the best service I have seen for tracking legislation. Apparently, soon much of the information will be open and free to use as a research tool. Currently, www.StateSurge.com tracks Missouri, Illinois, Kansas, Tennessee, and Federal legislation, but soon all 50 states will be integrated.

Posted by: Senator32 at February 1, 2008 2:40 PM

Pandora.com used to be amazing. Not only did I not have to spend hours creating playlists, I found new unknown artists.

Then Pandora.com had to go and sell out. My god. How many limits do we need?!

Advertisements between songs
Advertisements blocking my view
Time limit of 40 hours
6 song skips for the entire day no matter the station

Seriously guys. You have successfully alienated every user who has ever used and loved your site. What a dissapointment. Fuck the record industries. They're greedy bastards anyway. The ARTISTS make nothing from song play.

Posted by: hopelesslydreadful at September 18, 2009 4:49 PM