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April 18, 2007
Song Lyrics
Many listeners have requested a show about lyrics, and in Episode Ten, we step up to the plate. Pandora's music curator, Michael Zapruder, talks with host Kevin Seal about ways that words intersect with melodies. They play examples showing how complex music often calls for simpler language, and vice versa. After touching on devices that writers like Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen have used in their literary lyrics, they explore how character studies and personae have appeared in the songs of Randy Newman, the Kinks and Ice-T. (10 min.) Click the "Continue reading" button below to hear examples of great songs with words, and to chat with Michael and Kevin about your favorite or least-favorite lyrics.
MUSICAL TERMS INCLUDED IN THIS PODCAST
| Fingerpicked guitar | 6/8 time signature | Character study | Literal language |
| Folk guitar | Traditional folk ballad | Persona | Figurative language |
| "Topography" of song | Half-measure | Untrustworthy narrator | Chromatic chord progression |
| I-IV-V chord progression | High register singing | Third person | Diatonic chord progression |
MOON JUNE SWOON CROON: LYRICS OF LOVE AND LOST LOVE
by Anita O'Day (Cole Porter) |
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by Ella Fitzgerald (Lorenz Hart) |
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by Hank Williams |
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by the Beatles (John Lennon and Paul McCartney) |
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by the Beach Boys (Brian Wilson and Tony Asher) |
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by Elliott Smith |
PHILOSOPHICAL AND POETIC THOUGHT
by Bob Dylan |
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by Leonard Cohen |
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by Townes Van Zandt |
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by the Silver Jews (David Berman) |
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by Bonnie "Prince" Billy (Will Oldham) |
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by Joanna Newsom |
THE SURREAL, THE ABSURD, THE AMBIGUOUS
by the Beatles (John Lennon and Paul McCartney) |
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by the Bee Gees (Barry, Robin and Maurice Gibb) |
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by Elvis Costello |
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by Pavement (Stephen Malkmus) |
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by the Fiery Furnaces (Matt Friedberger) |
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by Regina Spektor |
CONCRETE SCENESETTING AND SPECIFIC, VIVID IMAGERY
by Tom Waits |
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by Bruce Springsteen |
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by Morrissey |
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by American Music Club (Mark Eitzel) |
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by the National (Matt Berninger) |
CHARACTER STUDIES
by Bob Dylan |
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by the Kinks (Ray Davies) |
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by Joni Mitchell |
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by Prince |
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by the Silver Jews (David Berman) |
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by Wilco (Jeff Tweedy) |
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by Aesop Rock |
PERSONA SONGS
by Randy Newman |
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by Randy Newman (no audio sample due to the explicit lyrics) |
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by Tom Waits |
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by the Kinks (Ray Davies) |
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by Eminem (no audio sample due to the explicit lyrics) |
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by Michael Zapruder's Rain of Frogs |
Comments
I have found the Pandora podcasts to be most informative. Upright bass is my instrument, although I am strickly amateur. The bass podcasts are most welcome, although I truly enjoyed the drum one as well. I like the way the instrument parts are delineated and explained. Bravo, Pandora!
Posted by: Binifra at April 19, 2007 07:49 AM
I'm a songwriter and the example's where great.At time,s I get alittle busy with the change's I use and the example's helped, thank's alot John...............
Posted by: john cardinali at April 19, 2007 12:15 PM
Oh man, I am so sorry I missed this discussion, especially after having yammered so much about lyrics in earlier blog comments!! Hurray for finally including lyrics in the arena, and on behalf of all songwriters, thanks! I just discovered it and am going to shut up and listen.
Posted by: Ruth Greenwood at April 19, 2007 05:59 PM
This is the best educational music-podcast I ever came accross on the net. Well-documented, clear examples and straight to the point! Keep up the good work!!
PS I'm looking forward to a next guitar-podcast...
Posted by: Peter Capon at April 20, 2007 01:41 AM
I can not connect with Pandora internet radio. please help me please
Posted by: tyka at April 20, 2007 07:39 AM
You guys are doing an AMAZING job with these podcasts, thank you so much for Pandora.
DV
Posted by: Divinorium's Vibrations at April 21, 2007 01:58 PM
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Posted by: lina at April 22, 2007 01:27 PM
Thanks, guys.
Peter, more guitar podcasts to come.
Ruth, I'm glad you showed up -- I remember your contributions to the main-blog discussions on lyrics. (At first, I read your name as "Ruth Underwood," and thought you were the mallet virtuoso.)
Do any of you have questions or comments for Michael? He's on here too, and happy to reply.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at April 23, 2007 01:38 PM
Nice job again! I love these podcasts, no where else do I learn so much about the music I love, and new music to love! I loved, loved the podcasts on pedal point, and drumming both of which helped me appreciate music more and expanded my playing (Bass).
Would you please do a series on Electric Bass ??
Thanks, you rock guys!
Posted by: David at April 24, 2007 11:52 AM
Definitely, definitely. Electric bass. It's on its way. Thanks for listening, David.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at April 24, 2007 01:42 PM
hey folks - just saying thanks for listening, and for the comments - glad the info helped, john, and good to hear from you again ruth!
until next time,
mz
Posted by: Michael Zapruder at April 30, 2007 10:53 AM
Well organized, very informative. The samples are really educational and appropriate, I can't love Pandora Podcast more.
Posted by: henry zeon at May 2, 2007 05:41 PM
thank you
Posted by: wissal at May 4, 2007 11:53 AM
i lakes JAMES BLUNT
Posted by: redouane80 at May 5, 2007 01:41 AM
Thanks, Henry! More to come.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at May 7, 2007 03:42 PM
I had pandora music for a long time until my computer crashed 2weeks ago and my disk was wiped clean to start over.Now i can't down load it.All i get is they can't come to Canada. When did that happen. I miss Pandora,too bad
Posted by: Pat at June 19, 2007 05:03 PM
Someday we hope to be fully international, Pat. We're continuing to work on that. Thanks for listening.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at July 19, 2007 11:47 AM
I couldn't let the opportunity go by to throw in my thoughts about the issue of lyrical craft for a local songwriter, Marc Barnhill. Some of his songs were collected on a CD called BLUE TIME, which I consider an overlooked masterpiece in terms of songwriting. There's no adequate way to describe what Marc Barnhill does as a songwriter without talking about language. With occasionally lofty vocabulary, plays on words, frequent alliteration, and offhand references to nursery rhymes, Yeats, Tennyson, Shakespeare, James Joyce, and even Robert M. Pirsig (or possibly Eugen Herrigel), language is always the focus here -- even cliches tend to be revised, reversed, or placed in a context that renders them changed -- but wordiness never eclipses actual personal insight. The combination of the mundane and the surprising (both topically and linguistically) announces itself right away: "My body's been sunburned, the topography's turned." The ground shifts continually here, folding back on itself to reveal layers of meaning. It's no accident, therefore, that some of the best lyrical passages involve the singer looking at his own looking: "Under the guise of looking myself over, I traded my freedom for fear / I was the devil on my own shoulder, the poison in my own ear"; "I can look ahead and see tomorrow / Following the rails, fathering my own / Waiting for the train in paternal patience / Burning in the station
like a burial stone"; "The water is wide, the way is treacherous, and the treasure is mislaid / Small steps and giant leaps to cross the room / Like some aborted lunar landing I spent half my life in planning / I'm left standing with my eyes fixed on the moon." Metaphors pile up until the compression squeezes out diamonds of recognition. So it is that "the bright bird of childhood," already an acceptable image, "settles like a hand upon your shoulder," with all the connotations that a suddenly descending hand would have for a child. This isn't an isolated example; this happens all over the album. Words pile up and slide apart, always revealing new facets of self-discovery, building and finally exploding in "Tragedy In Coney Island" in ways that don't bear decontextualized quotation. All of which is to say that Barnhill does what any good songwriter is supposed to do: he pays attention. Anyone else have a specific "unsung" songwriter in mind who truly pushes the lyrical envelope?
Posted by: christine varrick at October 6, 2007 11:01 AM
Thanks for the information, Christine -- I can't say that I've heard of Marc Barnhill. I look forward to checking him out.
Posted by: Kevin Seal at October 25, 2007 12:30 PM
I'd love to send you a little compilation of music that is very significant to me personally this year.
How best to do that? I currently use iTunes for all my music management.
Are there some other tools I can use to make this easy?
Posted by: san at March 31, 2008 11:35 PM
Although he probably isn't everyone's taste (not musically as much as lyrically) I like the lyrics that David Crowder uses (from David Crowder Band.) He has this habit of throwing in some really interesting words and saying things in unique ways. I appreciate it when guys take the time to really put their lyrics together.
I'm drawn to Paul Simon because of his ability to really put phrases together under interesting melodies. He probaby does work against the rule of 'complicated melody, easy lyrics' and sometimes I think he is trying to fit too much in at one time : but he really is interesting, and his album 'Rhythm of the Saints' is probably one of the most original albums available in the world!
Posted by: online shopping at June 3, 2008 09:24 AM
You guys are doing an AMAZING job with these podcasts, thank you so much for Pandora.
Posted by: Msn at July 21, 2008 02:41 PM
how about showing me how songs that i lisened too.its way pass my bed time i just could stop so please if you can send me list the johnnymband,,,,,,,,,,rockandroll108@comcast.net
Posted by: joseph welser at October 16, 2008 01:46 AM
Marc Barnhill. Some of his songs were collected on a CD called BLUE TIME, which I consider an overlooked masterpiece in terms of songwriting. There's no adequate way to describe what Marc Barnhill does as a songwriter without talking about language. With occasionally lofty vocabulary, plays on words, frequent alliteration, and offhand references to nursery rhymes, Yeats, Tennyson, Shakespeare, James Joyce, and even Robert M. Pirsig (or possibly Eugen Herrigel),
Posted by: dizi-izletv.com at December 24, 2008 10:28 PM
In this podcast at 4:48 they start a song, and i wanna find out who is the artist to this song. I love the chord progression. If anyone knows about this progression or the artist please email.
itzmecorey@gmail.com
Posted by: Corey at January 6, 2009 01:44 PM
Thanks for listening, Corey.
That song which appears at 4:48 is an unreleased Michael Zapruder track (the refrain is "They don't understand us").
Michael, is that track available anywhere?
Posted by: Kevin Seal at January 6, 2009 02:09 PM
You guys are doing an AMAZING job with these podcasts, thank you so much for Pandora
Posted by: chat at February 17, 2009 12:25 PM
thank you
Posted by: sohbet at March 5, 2009 06:10 PM
thank you
Posted by: lida dai at March 11, 2009 01:23 AM
I had pandora music for a long time until my computer crashed 2weeks ago and my disk was wiped clean to start over.Now i can't down load it.All i get is they can't come to Canada. When did that happen. I miss Pandora,too bad
Posted by: chat at April 29, 2009 11:27 PM
thanksss
Posted by: chat at April 29, 2009 11:50 PM