Very good explanation.....very useful and ilustrative..!

another great podcast, kevin and jeff - bravo! and such a good drummer, he must play with some gooood bands, no...?

I really enjoyed hearing the similarities between the "cousin" beats. it amazes me how significant small changes are in the overall feel of the drums. if you ask me, the drums are by far the most complex and infuential non-vocal instrument in any band.

Great job again guys. I've been using these in my Pop Music class and they're really helpful. I especially like the way you make connections between the different styles through subtle changes. Very cool.

Excellent! Great that you teach a Pop Music class, too. I wish there were more of those.

hi, excellent podcast!
great approach to rhythms and drums, very helpful.

thank you for the supplement for my beat deficiency...oom pow, oom pow pow!

Vitamin E is also good for beat deficiency. And iron. Oom pow pow!

Awesome podcast! I just listened to part I and II and I love the way you explain how the different styles relate. Keep it up!

Great! Clear explanations. Good drum playing.
More please!

As always, Kevin (and guest) - great podcast... I don't know how you manage to come up with some of seeming "off the cuff" things you put into these, but all the little tidbits of knowledge are wondrous. Kudos!

i'm an itailan singer, i love rock and punk music , and this is the top for us .. ROCK LOVER! .. ! Anfiotika aessenzio.it

Very nice,
I knew most of this but I never heard it explained so clear and simple; looking forward to the next one, keep 'em comin'!
thx!
DvS

I'd really like to hear about the construction of a song, for example how instruments work together and different ways to build a climax; that kind of stuff..

oops, almost forgot,
If you got Qbase on your pc, you should check out steinberg groove agent, it has got all the mentioned drumpatterns preprogrammed with the original drumsound and about 18 variations to it.
checkit!
DvS

Awesome guys just what i was looking for about drums & drumming. thanks

Thanks, folks! Happy to hear it.

DvS, the construction of a song opens up a lot of possibilities as a show topic. Forms, bridges, pre-choruses, and the way arrangements help build the dynamic and emotional contours... Good idea.

Damn, that's good! Nice work gentlemen.

One thing that's fascinating to me is the emotional response I have to the small changes in different drumming styles.

Like, I love the train beat. But as soon as you go into a jazzy swing beat, my heart starts beating faster....I like it better. And there were just a few tiny changes! Crazy!

Same with the rim clicks. When Jeff went into the rim clicks, I started grinning. I've always been such a sucker for a rim shot. I guess I should do some more listening to reggae; I've never given it enough of a chance. :)

And now I know why I liked the Police so much....Stewart C's marvelous bounty of rim shots!

(Cheers, I'm off to take my vitamin E...)

Pandora has so enriched my musical life! The radio stations you've created for me have introduced me to many artists with whom I'm not familiar and I'm making a list of those whose artistry I especially enjoy so I can add them to my collection. These podcasts are icing on the cake. Your discussions of the instrumental themes and techniques will be a wonderful expansion of my appreciation of all types of musical expression. Pandora is a treasure. Thanks guys!

Glenna

I was listening to all these great podcasts (and they are FANTASTIC!) and I can't hold my tongue anymore. I've tried to keep quiet, I can't do it. You so need to become familiar with Happy Rhodes' work. She has 10 albums and dozens of her songs would have fit well with almost any one of these podcasts (ok, maybe not the Salsa, but even then she has a salsa-flavored song on one album). She especially would have fit in the vocal/vocalizations podcasts because she has a phenomenal voice (think early Kate Bush dueting with Annie Lennox) and harmonizes with herself.

I know she's not well-known, but not everyone that you use as an example is well-known. I didn't say anything before because I didn't want to be seen as a shill, but I've been a fan of hers for 18 years and with every podcast I had fun going into her catalog and saying "ok, that's what that is" and "I didn't know what that technique was called!" and "yeah, here, she's doing that" and so on. So I had to speak up. Thanks for an education!

Vickie

Hi, Vickie,

I'm a huge fan of early Kate Bush, so you definitely hit a button for me with that one. I'm just made a Happy Rhodes station:
http://www.pandora.com/?search=happy+rhodes

Thanks!

Excellent, I'm learning a lot... I keep missing a video. That will be the ultimate...

carlos

Yep, video is on the way. It may take a while -- I'm an audio guy, so I have much to learn about the visual side of the technical work -- but we are moving in that direction.

Amazing stuff... such a great intro to a lot of basic music theory, but it's not dry or boring or anything but totally engaging and fascinating..

I'd love to see more on drumming.. you covered some of the latin stuff in your salsa podcast, but I'd love to hear it from a perspective of how those salsa/cha/clave beats integrate with pop/jazz/blues and what not.

I'd also love to hear dumming stuff with regard to hand drums. congas, dumbek, djembe, tablas etc and their influence on modern music..

I remember hearing by the way that you can find that basic Clave 3:2 beat somewhere in the music of just about every culture on earth

bock, bock, bock: Bink! Bink!

Bink! Bink! You are in luck, Chuck -- the next episode is also a drumming & percussion one, this time with Sameer Gupta, and we explore how samba beats can work with Indian tabla sounds, American jazz drumming, and even some references to Indonesian gamelan gongs.

Tabla is on the way.

There is a mis-nomer reference to Mambo... Perez Prado was King of the mambo... Tito Puente and Celia Cruz came in after the fact.. No-one other band/orchestra can/have been able to duplicate the mambo like good old PREZ

It's definitely true that Perez Prado came earlier, certainly. Puente & Cruz were a few of the ambassadors who made it more popular in the U.S.A. Go check out some Prez:

http://www.pandora.com/?search=perez+prado

Wow! This is really good stuff guys, you have a fantastic ability to describe the different feels and nuances of drumming. If I had've heard some of these kinds of things when I was starting out I could have really got to where I am now in terms of 'musical range' (as in liking a range of styles) a lot faster. Hopefully you inspire many younger drummers to get out there and check out your Led Zeppelins, Bob Marleys and The Police-s.

I was desperately hoping I would see the half-time shuffle come up, I am absolutely in love with that groove and can't get enough of people playing it. Steely Dan's "Babylon Sisters" and "Home At Last" and of course Toto and the Great Poracro's "Rosanna." Steely Dan is slowly but surely changing the way I play drums, they just have so much groove!

Anyway no one commented in a while so I thought I'd bring up the old HTS while I was thinking about it. Keep up the great Kevin, and Jeff you rock!

Those Steely Dan drum parts are amazing. Couldn't agree more, Oliver.

Have you seen the 'Classic Albums' DVD about the making of Steely Dan's Aja? Bernard "Pretty" Purdie explains how he plays the "Purdie shuffle," and it's amazing.

Thanks so much for this! This is exactly what I was looking for.

Although im not much of a blues or country fan, this was still absolutely wonderful, definitely want to see more of this

Really great stuff I have been listening to the podcast. One of the things that excites me are the small changes in the different drumming styles.
Superb :)

Happy New Year 2008.!

Wow, the session was so inspiring. Yall always have great advices. I love the podcast. I listen to almost all of them (and going to listen to the rest of them now). Thanks a bunch.

Great series. I listened to all 8 episodes today, but I had to download the episodes. Clicking "Listen Now" changes the button to yellow, but I don't hear any audio. Also, the Reggae episode cuts off at 7:37. I look forward to listening to the next episode. Thanks!

Thanks, guys! Makes us happy to hear that you're enjoying the shows. More are on the way. Be sure to check out our videos, too -- http://www.pandora.com/show

Thanks so much for this! This is exactly what I was looking for.